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Thu Nov 15, 2012, 8:43 AM
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rewriting this because for some reason I did not communicate very well- according to all the misunderstandings.
And why yes I have a degree in commercialism, communication and media. I clearly don't use it well.

When I go on the front page there will always be nudes. I've never bothered much with nudes, it's just people. In Europe in general we don't flinch at nudity nor sex. We show it on tv and encounter it as perfectly normal at a young age.

So for me nudity, or artistic nudes in this case; have never really bothered me. What do bother me is the attitude towards it on deviant Art. you can show your tits and vagina all you want for all I care honey- but I'ts far too 'appriciated' on the deviant Art front page and in it's daily deviantations.

Sure the female body have certain artistic features, and it's always been appreciated in art. Since the beginning of art actually. Statues, paintings and carvings of naked ladies and men have never been foreign to man.

But somewhere along the way naked men fell of the bandwagon and became 'inappropriate', especially on deviant Art. Why yes you can always find a picture of a penis if you wanted to, but you could also find a picture of overweight sonic having sex with a horse if you wanted to..

What I would like to know is why are nudity among artistic males more commonly banned and frowned upon in the light of deviant ART while low quality pictures of women jamming their fingers up their vagina appreciated ?

Don't get me wrong, I don't care for nudes or porn on deviant Art more than I care about sand in Sahara. I just don't understand the gap between female nudes and male nudes.

Thank you.
I hope I was clearer this time

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:iconbad-razzberry:
Bad-Razzberry Featured By Owner Nov 15, 2012  Student General Artist
i agree with you 100%
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Nekoshiba Featured By Owner Nov 19, 2012  Student Digital Artist
:iconhigh5plz:
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Bad-Razzberry Featured By Owner Nov 19, 2012  Student General Artist
:iconhigh5plz:

cat high fives are the best :iconmegustaplz:
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:iconwillochik:
Willochik Featured By Owner Nov 15, 2012  Hobbyist Photographer
:iconclapplz:

I couldn't have said that any better. Thankyou for voicing what I know so many think. I agree with you 100%
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Nekoshiba Featured By Owner Nov 19, 2012  Student Digital Artist
Thank you :icontearplz:
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:iconwillochik:
Willochik Featured By Owner Nov 19, 2012  Hobbyist Photographer
Hehee s'okay. :hug:
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ooshii Featured By Owner Nov 15, 2012
i agree eue
internet is a magical place. there are sites specialized in naked body parts
why don't people post their vaginas there? :icony-u-noplz:
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:iconnekoshiba:
Nekoshiba Featured By Owner Nov 19, 2012  Student Digital Artist
naked body parts is the nectar of life

BECAUSE THEY WANT YOU TO APPRECIATE THE ART OF THE VAGINA THEY HAVE GROWN, OK
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AtlantianOwl Featured By Owner Nov 15, 2012  Student General Artist
i agree with you 100%
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:iconnekoshiba:
Nekoshiba Featured By Owner Nov 19, 2012  Student Digital Artist
:iconyeahplz:
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stickerheart Featured By Owner Nov 15, 2012  Professional Digital Artist
because Women go on more respected sites for their porn .
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:iconwillochik:
Willochik Featured By Owner Nov 15, 2012  Hobbyist Photographer
ohmygod this^
yes
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pyradragon Featured By Owner Nov 15, 2012
This comment
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:iconnekoshiba:
Nekoshiba Featured By Owner Nov 15, 2012  Student Digital Artist
ouch that stung half of deviantart right in the porn dignity
you go girl
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stickerheart Featured By Owner Nov 15, 2012  Professional Digital Artist
XD I do try
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:iconfantasy-jg:
Fantasy-JG Featured By Owner Nov 15, 2012  Hobbyist
I know! I've noticed this recently too! There's just more and more of it everyday, and it's just juiugfbyqajg why. I'm not like, against it or anything, but the FRONT page?? :I
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:iconnekoshiba:
Nekoshiba Featured By Owner Nov 15, 2012  Student Digital Artist
It should be totally legal, just kept off the front page
it's the first thing you see when you visit deviantART.
The first thing you see should not be women spreading their legs
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Fantasy-JG Featured By Owner Nov 15, 2012  Hobbyist
Agreed. :iconmhmmplz:
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:iconvilgrim:
VilGrim Featured By Owner Nov 15, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
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:iconnekoshiba:
Nekoshiba Featured By Owner Nov 15, 2012  Student Digital Artist
yeup
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LexiCakes Featured By Owner Nov 15, 2012  Student Digital Artist
I think it has to deal with that there is more of 'audience' for the female anatomy rather than a male's. )8
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:iconnekoshiba:
Nekoshiba Featured By Owner Nov 15, 2012  Student Digital Artist
That is just sad though.

because if the nudes are uploaded and Favorited for the sake of art- it should not matter if it is female or male, nor if there is a male or a female viewing it- because it would be for artistic purposes.
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LexiCakes Featured By Owner Nov 15, 2012  Student Digital Artist
Exactly. :/ I don't know, it doesn't make any sense really. x_x

BOOBS AND VAGINAS ARE OKAY BUT NO DICKS
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LuxuryCat Featured By Owner Nov 15, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I don't need naked ladies on the front page at all *cries* At least not THAT much.
But I understand your point. At least hopefully all porn on the front page is censored
so I don't need to see it. .3.
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:iconnekoshiba:
Nekoshiba Featured By Owner Nov 15, 2012  Student Digital Artist
Me neither /sob/
yep let's pray
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Felidire Featured By Owner Nov 15, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
gargantuan bewbs frighten me than peens. ;^;

you know what? You should make a peen-shaped photoshop brush - that way, there'll be a little bit of peen in each picture you upload. <3
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Nekoshiba Featured By Owner Nov 15, 2012  Student Digital Artist
many feel that way

how do you know
that I don't put a little bit of peen in each picture I upload
hm?
:iconjennamarblesplz:
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:iconfelidire:
Felidire Featured By Owner Nov 15, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
becauz, my pingas sense ain't tingling! D:<

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:iconnekoshiba:
Nekoshiba Featured By Owner Nov 15, 2012  Student Digital Artist
Rocks and peens
makes sense
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StardustXIII Featured By Owner Nov 15, 2012
Yeah!
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:iconnekoshiba:
Nekoshiba Featured By Owner Nov 15, 2012  Student Digital Artist
yeup
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Mazelina Featured By Owner Nov 15, 2012  Hobbyist Artisan Crafter
Unfortunately, for whatever reason, society sees male sexuality as a terrible terrible thing.

I could talk about the concepts behind all of this, but it's exhausting. In the end, people need to realize naked does not mean porn. That's were a huge flaw is today, for both genders.
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:iconnekoshiba:
Nekoshiba Featured By Owner Nov 15, 2012  Student Digital Artist
I wonder when it started

That is a completely different issue though, because oddly enough female PORN is often accepted on deviant Art. Not just nudes, but fetish art- sex and actually the insertion of objects into a vagina is not hard to find. While if it contains a man- it's a terrible awful thing.

either way, art used for the main purpose to stimulate sex is porn. porn is art, but do we want that kind of art here is the question.
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Mazelina Featured By Owner Nov 15, 2012  Hobbyist Artisan Crafter
Your right, art is porn and porn is art. Many pieces that are very famous even today were, by nature, pornographic.

However when I say art is not porn, I mean it is not the now traditional view of what pornography is. In many peoples minds, porn is raunchy,degrading and is simply smut. In other words it's 'low-brow'. Though, considering that I'm a firm believer that everything and anything is art should it be deemed so, it's a huge bloody circle.

On to the matter at hand!

Well, really it started when 'realism' and the human body was explored by artists

Art 'culture' in western Europe is dominated by male artists and enthusiasts even today. In the 18/ 1900's upper class people would order paintings to have in their homes,and it wasn't uncommon to have naked/suggestive woman all over. The art was meant to be stimulating.Why? Paternal culture, it was socially appreciated and became the norm. Art was used to flaunt wealth and was a status symbol. Woman were easily objectified, it was their role. Gentlemen were on another tier of society above woman, they had control and power, so how awful would it be to the 'delicate,fairer' sensibilities of woman to see a naked man? Men were considered dangerous, sex crazed beasts in some ways. Male female segregation was mandatory.

I'm explaining this rather poorly at the moment, I wish I had my textbook at the moment to explain this all better and give examples. That's pretty much the jist though.( As far as I'm aware anyway, all are welcomed to disagree)
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dreamybean Featured By Owner Nov 15, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
double standard eh >.>
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:iconnekoshiba:
Nekoshiba Featured By Owner Nov 15, 2012  Student Digital Artist
far too large gap
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MadlyFluffyDragon Featured By Owner Nov 15, 2012  Student General Artist
whats your definition of art? official definition is "The expression or application of human creative skill and imagination, typically in a visual form such as painting or sculpture,...: "the art of the Renaissance"" so porn is art. don't like don't look. also naked men are not against the rules. its just those works aren't popular. and in order to get on the front page the work has to be popular. so there is a large number of people who openly or secretly disagree with your points, i don't agree with porn i hate it. but its arrogant and rude to say something isn't art just because you don't agree with it. i agree that it isn't good art. but it is art. and it deserves that title as much as any of yours or mine. art is using a medium to express or inspire an emotion. those images do so. very well. even in those who get angry about it. the fact you get so angry proves its art. i don't care. turn on your filter like me. the admins respond to report. and people can get banned for not putting the right filter on their art. report move on. and don't complain about stuff on the front page. because it was put there by a large number of people.
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Nekoshiba Featured By Owner Nov 15, 2012  Student Digital Artist
I clearly need to rewrite this journal

there is a communication error caused by cultural differences and language difficulties somewhere in this.
Because you clearly don't get the point
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MadlyFluffyDragon Featured By Owner Nov 15, 2012  Student General Artist
oh well sorry about that. ^^
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jamesgunner123 Featured By Owner Nov 15, 2012
....yeah, I still don't get what the whole bias against the male form is all about.....its basely hypocritical and serves no real purpose other than to give a bunch of egotistical blowhards a chance to stroke their egos by pretending to have any real concept of what is and isn't art.....
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:iconnekoshiba:
Nekoshiba Featured By Owner Nov 19, 2012  Student Digital Artist
It's simply unfair.

in real life shirtless women is the most awful thing ever, but on the internet a shirtless man is the most horrid thing in the world. lol what happened
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jamesgunner123 Featured By Owner Nov 19, 2012
...some folks just can't cope with the human body....their prejudice towards exposed flesh is both a paranoid aversion towards any reminder of their own sad, pathetic shell and at the SAME TIME a selfish manipulation of the power structure so as to prevent their fellow (rational) human beings from studying and, heaven forbid, perhaps even admiring the physical form.....nude or otherwise......as you said, it's simply unfair and must be stopped.....
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Weerwoefski Featured By Owner Nov 15, 2012  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Everybody on the internet is male anyway, so a lack of peni is totally okay! :iconleoflickfingersplz:

Oh science, I love it when you work.
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:iconnekoshiba:
Nekoshiba Featured By Owner Nov 15, 2012  Student Digital Artist
I don't care, I just don't like the whole manhate thing starting to trend on the internet.
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Snowballflo Featured By Owner Nov 15, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
actually....i agree ._. no really i totally agree and have a total objection with it >8I
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:iconnekoshiba:
Nekoshiba Featured By Owner Nov 15, 2012  Student Digital Artist
agreeing people unite!
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Snowballflo Featured By Owner Nov 15, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
people just cant find anything better can they?....and why is it always females in everything...? i personally think our gender is being insulted by this :iconwhywouldffffplz: is this really a new way of torturing? .-.
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Nekoshiba Featured By Owner Nov 15, 2012  Student Digital Artist
Let's consider it sexist, become feminists- and go to war!
wait wat
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Snowballflo Featured By Owner Nov 15, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
oooooo'k.......? wut? ._.
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:iconnekoshiba:
Nekoshiba Featured By Owner Nov 15, 2012  Student Digital Artist
i don't even know anymore
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